The second rule of NASSCOM lobbying is to 'bag on the Chinese' when talking about your clients isn't working.
And the third rule of NASSCOM fight club is.. well… you know.
Since Don doesn't have much clue about the Chinese, even to bag on them, I decided to comment:
"I'll be brief. And a 'devil's advocate.'
1/ Crossed whose line of decency? "We", after all of our economic debacles, don't seem to have one anymore.
2/ If you're alluding to "decency" for the Chinese, they have different values than we do. On the whole, they're more concerned with JUSTICE, not so called 'decency'. It was that way before the communists, during Mao's regime, and will be evermore after the PRC morphs into some kind of mutant mercantile society sometime in the future.
3/ The Chinese activists are a scant minority in the PRC. Like the Falun Gong, they are seem as a non conformist 'aberration' to be re-educated or rubbed out if they REALLY make trouble.
Cisco makes their kit, and provides configurations to the Chinese.
They also do so to the Indian Bharati regime --the Indians are also looking for state of the art surveillance and an internet kill switch, because they have the same problem as the Chinese:
- Demographically too many young males, who are "too smart",
- Less than total control of a LARGE area of the country (tho' China is better at this),
- Massive potential for unrest in the less prosperous areas.
The fact of the matter is that the United States (corporations) have the rep of 'they will do business with anyone, even to the detriment of their own people'.. and on that basis any moral proselytizing to the Chinese (or any other N or SE Asian) at this point, falls on deaf ears.
This is also why companies (if they're smart) deal with the Taiwanese (Nationalists) and use them as a firewall against 'sour deals' with the PRC. The ROC'ers don't seem too picky about Beijing's record on human rights, at least not where trade is concerned. Suicides up at Foxconn due to Apple, HP, Dell orders behind? Put up suicide nets at the factory & sweep it under the rug. SOP.
The PRC (and rightly so) sees itself as a sovereign nation not subject to the hypocrisy of a nation that, itself has been rather dicey on the same human rights as of late. That's why you hear the PRC retort with 'Gitmo' or 'Torture' when these issues are brought up. The US makes war, the Chinese make 'all weather friends' (a neologism/antonym of 'fair weather friend') in Africa & Pakistan."
(Via Second Lawsuit Accuses Cisco of Enabling China to Oppress Citizens | Blogs | ITBusinessEdge.com.)So much for being brief...
Like some little lawsuit filed in an activist court in ultra-hippy NorCal is going to change the default behavior of both Cisco & the PRC? Nah, this has been business as usual for far too long. But, if the State of California wants to piss off Cisco (more), they can just lay off more California employees.
Cisco is observing the 'platinum rule' of treating the PRC Chinese the way they expect to be treated. They don't want our (negative) freedom, and some 'activist' with delusions of (positive) freedom? Like that's gonna fly! Money talks, "ideals" walk. And if Cisco won't sell their own kit to China, Huawei or someone else will.
It's not rocket science, boyz n girls… Demographically the world is getting OLDER, and those in power are getting afraid of springtimes: Jade, Arab, and other due to the economic situation. The Chinese are just one national government in a line that are looking for MORE CONTROL over their young, male, tech savvy and INCREASINGLY RESTLESS populations.
Maybe those in the USA would do well to look at what controls have been put in place on our freedoms.. instead of blustering over a sovereign nation like China. Who can take care of their own -- and has for far longer than the US has been a country.
But hey, the US Mils decided that 'China is the enemy', so now US businesses that trade with our 2nd main creditor (after the Fed) are to be frowned on.
Frowny frown frown.